Was Einstein Wrong?

Posted September 23rd, 2011 at 5:27 pm (UTC+0)
17 comments

Albert Einstein (circa 1921) (Photo: wikipedia)

Albert Einstein (circa 1921) (Photo: wikipedia)

Unthinkable?

If a finding released Thursday by scientists in Geneva proves to be true, the world’s most famous equation – Albert Einstein‘s E=MC2 – could be moot, undoing our current understanding of the physical world.

Einstein revealed that equation in his special theory of relativity released in 1905. It asserted that energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, and helped shape our understanding of the physical world.

The scientists in Geneva fired a beam of neutrinos – elementary particles which don’t hold an electrical charge and pass through ordinary matter with virtually no interaction – from CERN‘S particle accelerator to a lab in Italy about 730 kilometers away.

The speed of light is 299,792.458 kilometers per second. The Geneva scientists found their sub-atomic particles traveled to Italy 60 nanoseconds faster than the speed of light – or 300,006 kilometers per second.

That appears to break the limit set by Einstein.

An illuminated globe at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN, outside Geneva, Switzerland. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

An illuminated globe at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN, outside Geneva, Switzerland. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus)

In fact, CERN’s announcement was greeted with more skepticism than usual by the physics community, with many calling for independent verification of the findings.

However, the CERN scientists, many of whom remain skeptical themselves, expected the uproar.  They carefully examined their results and recalculated their findings for nearly six months before publicly announcing them. They’re even asking colleagues everywhere to double check the findings and calculations.

The inevitable verification process will take place in two steps. The first would be to evaluate the results and supporting data, which are available on Cornell University’s physics website.  The second step, which could take place in a couple of months, will require the duplication of the CERN neutrino experiment in another laboratory.

In the meantime, you can bet physicists everywhere will scour CERN’s data for even the tiniest glitch, miscalculation or other anomaly which will debunk the findings and restore Einstein’s calculations that nothing is faster than the speed of light.

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17 Responses to “Was Einstein Wrong?”

  1. Rob Swift says:

    So it may all have expanded out of the realm of light. How can that be a surprise, and it doesn’t discredit Mr Einstein in any way. Happy hunting.

  2. S.V.Ramanan says:

    These apparent contradictions are due to the assumption Light is the fastest particle known to us.

    This assumption need not be correct.

    I remember having read somewhere Einstein having said that if a particle were to travel faster than Light it no longer remains Matter.

    An interesting observation.

    The observable Universe/Light is possible when the Observer and the Observed remain in the same plane.

    If the velocity of the Observed is greater than the Observer He can not observe it, but can only deduce it.

    In that case it does not stand to verification by strict scientific standards.

    It moves then to the Realm of Philosophy, the Mother of Sciences.

    The present concept can be better understood if one were to accept the Cyclic Theory of Time,which allows for particles to exist at different planes,different velocities.

    Findings of Quantum Theory supports this Concept..

    Please read my blog, Time-non linear theory.

    • Md. Rafikul Haque says:

      We can not say “E = MC2″ is wrong. Actually it is in-sufficient.

      So, it is obvious that to-day or tomorrow its limitation would be felt.

      The theory of relativity puts us into confusion rather than confirmation.

      So, another theory must come to explain the queries of the moment and so on…..

    • Dhananjay Shantaram Janorkar says:

      Hon.Sir,
      Research on E=Mc2 Instead of E=Mm2,The speed of light =22,32,00,00,000 miles per second,Point,Exact value of Pi = π = Goba = Pi = 3.141592653 , and also both research. Look at SBJANORKAR-site.google.com
      Respected sir,
      My father Shri. Shantaram Bapurao Janorkar has worked out the accurate numerical value of Pi=π,Goba= Pi = 3.141592653 is exact value and also research point:- Evidence of existence of point and it´s from.E=Mc2 formula derived by Hon. Albert Einstein is wrong & it´s evidence proof,E=Mm2 is new formula, The speed of light =22,32,00,00,000 miles per second. Soul:-Evidence of existence of Soul, it´s form and nomenclature.Om,Aatmaa and also both research.
      In mathematic´s the value of Pi = π, which was wrongly known to the mathematician is roughly limitless, in-comprehensible, incalculable, transcendental irrational.Circumference divided by Diameter = magnitude of regular polygon (Roughly circumference) divided by Diameter is wrong. Today’s world class mathematician was assumed that the circumference is a magnitude of regular polygon. (there fore) they do not get exact value of Pi= π, for this my father made whole life time research and calculated the exact value of Pi= π which was 3.141592653 and whole research was made in Marathi (Devnagri) language.
      In 15th of September 1998 publication of Pi=π=Gobacha Swayam Siddha Siddhant Launching ceremony was arranged by me in a city center at Mahan Dist.Akola at 6:00 pm on 15-09-1998. This function was presided over by senior Journalist, Radio and Television reporter late. Shree Dadasaheb Mankar,Dr.K.S.Adhau, Head of Department of Mathematics Amravati University, Amravati Published theorem book. And the launching was over by Hon.Dr.T. M.Karde,(Dean,Faculty of Science, Nagpur University Nagpur, President of Einstin foundation internation,Nagpur) Shree. Bhagwantrao Ingle, President of District Journalist Union, Dr.Mujumdar, Head of department of Engineering Dr.P.D.Krishi Vidyapith,Akola Dr.Burghate, Dr.Asole, Deputy Education Officer,Shri.Wankhade,Adesh Deshpande, Baban Daberao, Prof. Pundkar Dr.Ghorpande, B.D.O. Shri. Borde, were present on dais.
      HONOURABLE GUEST’S VIEWS ABOUT THE THEORUM
      Hon.Dr.T.M.Karde (International pamed mathematician):- Dr.Karde admitted the new thought about the principal of static & Dynamic is brought by this theorem. In spite of all, he do not comment on this issue instantly, but the assured that, the discussion will be made on the same in next conference certainly.
      Hon.Dr.K.S.Adhau (Head, Department of Mathematics, Amravati University):- Dr.Adhau thought that it would be fast to give any remark on this theorem.
      Hon.Dr.Mujumdar (Head, Department of Engineering Dr.P.D.Krishi Vidyapith, Akola):- Today, this has been provide that research work is not limited to university expert person. But a farmer can also do a research work. There is no end to research work. This research work will guide the future generation.
      Hon.Late Dadasaheb Mankar (Senior Journalist):- Professor Mankar stated that this result is hard work / dedication of 20 years and he expected such Hero should be born from this earth only.
      Hon.N.L.Lakhanpal,Principal Secretary,Higher Technical Education Department, Mantralaya, Mumbai-32 Wrote in the letter DO No.PA1097/NLL/P.I.,Dated:-21May1997 to Hon.Prof.V.S.Ramamurthy,Secretary, Science and Technology Bhavan,Department of Science,Government of India,New Delhi.Since the state Government does not have any such expertise, We would request Government of India to Initiate whatever steps are considered necessary in this matter.
      No one has responded seriously to my father research work. I humbly request to you where in the validity of this claim Can be scientifically established. Whatever steps are considered necessary in this matter. So,I again request you to do needful in this regard.
      Thanking you, Yours faithfully
      Dhananjay Shantaram Janorkar
      (Chief Publisher,All Research Shri. Shantaram Bapurao Janorkar)
      c/o Shri.Patil House, Nityanand Nagar,
      Near Saraswati Vidyalaya, Gorakshan Road,
      Akola:- 444 004 (Maharashtra State),India
      Mob:- 091-9021607450,9226442256
      E-mail ID: dhananjay.janorkar70@gmail.com Shantaramb.janorkar@gmail.com
      Date: 24-09-2011
      Research on Point,E=Mc2 Instead of E=Mm2,Soul , Exact value of Pi=π,Goba = Pi = 3.141592653 ,Om,Aatmaa and also both research, look at google site,Twitter,Orkut,Rediff mypage,Digg,yahoo mypage,Facebook, name of Dhananjay Janorkar and Shantaram Bapurao Janorkar.

  3. hollypahl says:

    Even though his work I believe proffered the idea with others. http://bit.ly/qsvnNe

  4. July aug sept oct nov says:

    In the macrocosm x999 trillion. Light moves far slower then light at this dimension. At least to us anyway.

  5. Akashdeep Saha says:

    We cannot say anything before Thursday……If the scientists prove that light is not the fastest element then it would be the worst shock ever for the Science world…Because for more than 100 years we have been knowing that light is the fastest element……At least it will wake up the dead soul of sir Albert Einstein.

  6. Gary Joseph Chandler says:

    it’s pissant to ‘think’ light is the fastest speed.
    unravel; absolute zero = infinite heat; then our monkey brains will begin dialing the combination.
    stationary matter = fastest speed < think about it! [FULLY stationary matter]

  7. Dhananjay Shantaram Janorkar says:

    Hon.Sir,
    Research on E=Mc2 Instead of E=Mm2,The speed of light =22,32,00,00,000 miles per second,Point,Soul , Exact value of Pi=π,Goba = Pi = 3.141592653 ,Om,Aatmaa and also both research. Look at SBJANORKAR-site.google.com
    Respected sir,
    My father Shri. Shantaram Bapurao Janorkar has worked out the accurate numerical value of Pi=π,Goba= Pi = 3.141592653 is exact value and also research point:- Evidence of existence of point and it´s from.E=Mc2 formula derived by Hon. Albert Einstein is wrong & it´s evidence proof,E=Mm2 is new formula, The speed of light =22,32,00,00,000 miles per second. Soul:-Evidence of existence of Soul, it´s form and nomenclature.Om,Aatmaa and also both research.
    In mathematic´s the value of Pi = π, which was wrongly known to the mathematician is roughly limitless, in-comprehensible, incalculable, transcendental irrational.Circumference divided by Diameter = magnitude of regular polygon (Roughly circumference) divided by Diameter is wrong. Today’s world class mathematician was assumed that the circumference is a magnitude of regular polygon. (there fore) they do not get exact value of Pi= π, for this my father made whole life time research and calculated the exact value of Pi= π which was 3.141592653 and whole research was made in Marathi (Devnagri) language.
    In 15th of September 1998 publication of Pi=π=Gobacha Swayam Siddha Siddhant Launching ceremony was arranged by me in a city center at Mahan Dist.Akola at 6:00 pm on 15-09-1998. This function was presided over by senior Journalist, Radio and Television reporter late. Shree Dadasaheb Mankar,Dr.K.S.Adhau, Head of Department of Mathematics Amravati University, Amravati Published theorem book. And the launching was over by Hon.Dr.T. M.Karde,(Dean,Faculty of Science, Nagpur University Nagpur, President of Einstin foundation internation,Nagpur) Shree. Bhagwantrao Ingle, President of District Journalist Union, Dr.Mujumdar, Head of department of Engineering Dr.P.D.Krishi Vidyapith,Akola Dr.Burghate, Dr.Asole, Deputy Education Officer,Shri.Wankhade,Adesh Deshpande, Baban Daberao, Prof. Pundkar Dr.Ghorpande, B.D.O. Shri. Borde, were present on dais.
    HONOURABLE GUEST’S VIEWS ABOUT THE THEORUM
    Hon.Dr.T.M.Karde (International pamed mathematician):- Dr.Karde admitted the new thought about the principal of static & Dynamic is brought by this theorem. In spite of all, he do not comment on this issue instantly, but the assured that, the discussion will be made on the same in next conference certainly.
    Hon.Dr.K.S.Adhau (Head, Department of Mathematics, Amravati University):- Dr.Adhau thought that it would be fast to give any remark on this theorem.
    Hon.Dr.Mujumdar (Head, Department of Engineering Dr.P.D.Krishi Vidyapith, Akola):- Today, this has been provide that research work is not limited to university expert person. But a farmer can also do a research work. There is no end to research work. This research work will guide the future generation.
    Hon.Late Dadasaheb Mankar (Senior Journalist):- Professor Mankar stated that this result is hard work / dedication of 20 years and he expected such Hero should be born from this earth only.
    Hon.N.L.Lakhanpal,Principal Secretary,Higher Technical Education Department, Mantralaya, Mumbai-32 Wrote in the letter DO No.PA1097/NLL/P.I.,Dated:-21May1997 to Hon.Prof.V.S.Ramamurthy,Secretary, Science and Technology Bhavan,Department of Science,Government of India,New Delhi.Since the state Government does not have any such expertise, We would request Government of India to Initiate whatever steps are considered necessary in this matter.
    No one has responded seriously to my father research work. I humbly request to you where in the validity of this claim Can be scientifically established. Whatever steps are considered necessary in this matter. So,I again request you to do needful in this regard.
    Thanking you, Yours faithfully
    Dhananjay Shantaram Janorkar
    (Chief Publisher,All Research Shri. Shantaram Bapurao Janorkar)
    c/o Shri.Patil House, Nityanand Nagar,
    Near Saraswati Vidyalaya, Gorakshan Road,
    Akola:- 444 004 (Maharashtra State),India
    Mob:- 091-9021607450,9226442256
    E-mail ID: dhananjay.janorkar70@gmail.com
    Shantaramb.janorkar@gmail.com
    Research on Point,E=Mc2 Instead of E=Mm2,Soul , Exact value of Pi=π,Goba = Pi = 3.141592653 ,Om,Aatmaa and also both research, look at google site,Twitter,Orkut,Rediff mypage,Digg,yahoo mypage,Facebook, name of Dhananjay Janorkar and Shantaram Bapurao Janorkar.

  8. MIke O'Leary says:

    I have to ask the question…

    Was Einstein wrong about the speed limit being the Speed of Light?
    Or was the caclulation of the speed of light in error?

    When talking about 60 nanoseconds the known speed is more likely wrong than Einstein is!

  9. Gary Joseph Chandler says:

    Thought is faster than light.

  10. EINSTEIN WAS NOT ONLY WRONG HE IS THE BIGGEST LIAR EVER ALL TIME.
    EINSTEIN KNEW TESLA CALLED FASTER-THAN-LIGHT CALLING BACK IN TIME TRUTH HAS BEEN MY FIGHT. TESLA AND EINSTEIN BOTH KNEW.

    “Let the future tell the truth, and evaluate each one according to his work and accomplishments. The present is theirs; the future, for which I have really worked, is mine.” -Nikola Tesla

    FASTER-THAN-LIGHT MESSAGES WERE SENT TO THE PAST

    Einstein the figurehead. Tesla died on the cross for our sins. Disaster the sacrifice that was let to be… or no more Vegas and Wall Street you see. Revelation I’ll write and one day send Faster-Than-Light.

    “All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light.” Nikola Tesla, July 10, 1932

    “If you only knew The magnificence of the 3, 6 & 9; then you would have a key to the universe” -Nikola Tesla

    That decision was the U.S. Supreme Court Decision No. 369 which said Tesla invented Radio not Marconi BUT…
    THE SUPREME COURT LANDMARK DECISION WAS
    MADE AFTER TESLA WAS DEAD SIX MONTHS

    I SOLVE THE RIDDLE OF TESLA.

    “Fragments of Olympian Gossip”
    By Nikola Tesla
    While listening on my cosmic phone
    I caught words from the Olympus blown.
    A newcomer was shown around;
    That much I could guess, aided by sound.
    “There’s Archimedes with his lever
    Still busy on problems as ever.
    Says: matter and force are transmutable
    And wrong the laws you thought immutable.”
    “Below, on Earth, they work at full blast
    And news are coming in thick and fast.
    The latest tells of a cosmic gun.
    To be pelted is very poor fun.
    We are wary with so much at stake,
    Those beggars are a pest—no mistake.”
    “Too bad, Sir Isaac, they dimmed your renown
    And turned your great science upside down.
    Now a long haired crank, Einstein by name,
    Puts on your high teaching all the blame.
    Says: matter and force are transmutable
    And wrong the laws you thought immutable.”
    “I am much too ignorant, my son,
    For grasping schemes so finely spun.
    My followers are of stronger mind
    And I am content to stay behind,
    Perhaps I failed, but I did my best,
    These masters of mine may do the rest.
    Come, Kelvin, I have finished my cup.
    When is your friend Tesla coming up.”
    “Oh, quoth Kelvin, he is always late,
    It would be useless to remonstrate.”
    Then silence, shuffle of soft slippered feet”
    I knock and the bedlam of the street.
    Nikola Tesla, Novice

    Nikola Tesla caused more than 27 days of world record uplift earthquakes in Alaska commencing on September 3, 1899. These events commencing in nature on such a precise start is so highly unlikely that it’s uniqueness can be mathematically proven unnatural. Tesla’s signature with timing on an earthquake which historically are seen only as an act God or nature, was signing as his the biggest footprint man had ever made left while also embarresed billions of minds needing more than a century to notice. Early pioneers in the field of seismology were led by his peer, friend and inventor of the seismograph John “Earthquake” Milne who at The Isle of Wight was by far at the forefront of knowledge on earthquakes. John Milne assigned every world shaking earthquake disturbance with a consecutive “Shide” number for consecutive designation record numbers British Association For The Advancement of Sciences was the foremost authority worldwide in noticing, tracking & understanding earthquakes.
    Nikola Tesla sought out John Milne’s approaching number and nailed that Shide No. 333 on September 3 at 3:03 pm epicenter time knowing a mathematical signature would be artistic perfection one day realized when Shide numbers were buried. 3:03:27 pm or 3h03m27s or Room #3327 at The Hotel New Yorker that Nikola Tesla had to spend ten straight years everyday making sure death would engrave the greatest accomplishment man had made forgotten by mankind man made earthquakes.
    He hinted… Tesla did things in threes in public acting obsessed with the number 3. For example, it was not uncommon to see him walk around a block 3 times before entering a building. He was adamant about staying in a hotel room with a number divisible by three in front of reporters. Room #3327 because the Knob Hill Apparatus in Colorado Springs caused the 1899 Alaskan Earthquakes commencing on September 3, 1899 at 3h03m27s or 3:03:27 pm epicenter time. That was a year divisible by 3 times 3, a month divisible by 3 times 3, a day divisible by 3, an hour divisible by 3, a minute divisible by 3, a second divisible by 3 times 3 times 3 and for Christ’s sake it was Earthquake Milne Shide No. 333… and it lasted 3 times 3 times 3 days. duh

    DO THE MATH…

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 is 1 chance in 3.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 is 1 chance in 9.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 is 1 chance in 27.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 is 1 chance in 81.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 on a day divisible by 3 is 1 chance in 243.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 on a day divisible by 3 IN AN HOUR DIVISIBLE BY 3 is 1 chance in 729.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 on a day divisible by 3 IN AN HOUR DIVISIBLE BY 3 IN A MINUTE DIVISIBLE BY 3 is 1 chance in 2187.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 on a day divisible by 3 IN AN HOUR DIVISIBLE BY 3 IN A MINUTE DIVISIBLE BY 3 ON A SECOND DIVISIBLE BY 3 is 1 chance in 6561.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 on a day divisible by 3 IN AN HOUR DIVISIBLE BY 3 IN A MINUTE DIVISIBLE BY 3 ON A SECOND DIVISIBLE BY 3 TIMES 3 is 1 chance in 19,683.

    The chances that any earthquake occuring in nature begins in a year divisible by 3 times 3 in a month divisible by 3 times 3 on a day divisible by 3 IN AN HOUR DIVISIBLE BY 3 IN A MINUTE DIVISIBLE BY 3 ON A SECOND DIVISIBLE BY 3 TIMES 3 TIMES 3 is 1 chance in 59,049.

    NOW YOU MAY SAY THERE HAVE LIKELY BEEN THAT MANY WORLD SHAKING EARTHQUAKES SO these 1 in 59,049 odds that it occured naturally without being caused by man at that intended specific moment is not actually astronomical or impossible… but when you see that it recorded THE WORLD RECORD LARGEST UPLIFT IN THE HISTORY OF PLANET EARTH A WORLD 47FT AT SEA LEVEL YOU HAVE TO MULTIPLY 59,049 TIMES 59,049 BRINGING ODDS IT WAS NATURAL TO 1 IN 3,486,784,013

    “All repeated acts or operations I performed had to be divisible by threeand if I missed I felt impelled to do it again, even if it took hours.” -Nikola Tesla

    … and for Christ’s sake it was Earthquake Milne Shide No. 333 and lasted 3 times 3 times 3 days. This is from the USGS regarding the 1899 earthquakes at Yakutat Bay, Alaska. They lasted 27 days. September 3 to 29, 1899 and included four or five world-shaking disturbances
    and hundreds of minor shocks. During four weeks there was almost constant palpitation of this part of
    the earth’s crust. The shocks were most severe on September 3, 10, and 23, and were great on the
    15th, 17th, 26th, and 29th. On the 10th there were over 50 small shocks and two world-shaking
    disturbances. The greatest faulting took place on September 10. The greatest uplift that had ever been
    recorded in the history of the world took place on September 10, 1899.

    MAN MADE EARTHQUAKES. -Biblical Prophet

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  12. Dan says:

    Is a discrepancy of 213.542km/sec or 60 nanoseconds a significant difference? I assume a variety of complicated machines and computers are needed to conduct and record such experiments. Isn’t it possible something similar to the observer effect is at play here?
    And the quote the article “The scientists in Geneva fired a beam of neutrinos – elementary particles which… pass through ordinary matter with virtually no interaction” Virtually no interaction or no interaction, what’s the difference?
    It would good if someone could provide me with some answers.

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