FILE — A recently deported migrant from Seattle waits for a chance to cross to the U.S. near the US-Mexico border fence in Tijuana. (AP Photo)
Spurred by Republican Donald Trump’s controversial comments, immigration is a hot-button issue this presidential election season. The GOP front-runner repeatedly brings the issue up, saying that undocumented immigrants cost the United States “hundreds of billions in healthcare costs, housing costs, education costs, welfare costs, etc.”
A 2010 report from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative group that supports tighter immigration restrictions, estimates that illegal immigrants cost U.S. taxpayers $113 billion annually, with the bulk of those costs being absorbed by state and local governments.
FILE – In this Oct. 14 1991 file photo, a group of illegal Mexican immigrants jump from a border fence to enter the United States, near Tijuana, Mexico. (AP Photo)
However, people who are n the U.S. illegally do pay some taxes.
The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy — which bills itself as a non-profit, non-partisan research organization that works on tax policy issues — estimates undocumented immigrants pay about $11.64 billion a year in state and local taxes.
However, the truth is that no one knows exactly how much undocumented immigrants cost the nation or how much they pay into it.
“Anytime you’re analyzing something for which the first adjective describing it is ‘undocumented’, that makes it a little harder to measure,” said Matt Gardner, executive director of the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP). “But yes, absolutely these data should be interpreted as a best guess.”
The point, Gardner says, is that illegal immigrants pay a significant amount into the system.
“If you listened to the policy debates that are happening, whether it’s from candidates or from people who are already in office, you would think the answer is ‘zero’,” he said. “It’s a lot bigger than zero; $11.6 billion a year is a meaningful amount of revenue for state and local governments.”
ITEP estimates undocumented immigrants would contribute an additional $2.1 billion annually if they were granted legal status as part of comprehensive immigration reform and allowed to work legally.
There are more than 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States, about half of whom are Mexican. They make up about 3.5 percent of the nation’s population and are mostly concentrated in California, Texas, Florida, New York, New Jersey and Illinois. The question of how much of a drain immigrants are on the system remains an open one.
A 2007 report prepared by the Congressional Budget Office estimated, “tax revenues of all types generated by immigrants — both legal and unauthorized — exceed the cost of the [federal] services they use.” However, the same report also concluded that the tax revenues generated by unauthorized immigrants do not offset the total cost of services state and local governments provide to those immigrants.
Education is the largest single expenditure for state and local governments when it comes to illegal immigrants. Some view that expense as an investment in the nation’s future.
“What you gain in the long run is healthy, well-educated members of the workforce, the building blocks for the economy, for the factories, for the services, for everything we produce as a nation over the next 50 years,” Gardner said. “In the end, what we’re building is a workforce. That’s what every state needs, that’s what the U.S. needs to stay competitive in the future.”
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These people are “illegal” immigrants (migrants). They work for low wages undercutting Americans’ willing to do the same work legally. They suppress wages so that Americans can not earn a living wage. While illegal immigrants (migrants) sneak into the US other people who are waiting to legally immigrate to America with desirable skills are forgotten.
And exactly who are these people who surreptitious enter the US? Are they simply looking for work? Are they violent criminals? Have they committed crimes in their own counties? Are they terrorists? There is no way of knowing since they entered America without any kind of inspection.
A great many patriotic Americans have made vast sums of money exploiting this cheap source of labour. It’s been going on for years and without it the agriculture industry would struggle. Immigrant labour, legal or illegal, has been doing the work most citizens won’t reduce themselves to do while the industry elite and their pals in congress have been shipping skilled well paying jobs overseas. The cheapest solution is to give amnesty and legitimize these people, then tighten the borders going forward. The United States has much bigger issues to deal with than illegals but the talking heads don’t want to address them on the campaign trail.
Far and away, the biggest issues impacting America are trade policies and immigration. For starters, you can’t pretend you are a patriotic American when you support globalist trade policies and illegal immigration. They are betraying the American people for profit. The version of free trade practiced currently which isn’t even real free trade and illegal immigration has led to a shrinking middle class, manufacturing jobs going over seas, greater income inequality, greater trade deficits, destruction of American culture and values, destruction of US sovereignty, destruction of rule of law, increased crime, etc. Based on your response, you appear to be unaware that American become a super power through protectionist trade polices and doing the work ourselves. The cheapest solution here is to admit the failures of illegal immigration and free trade and fix the problems now. You think the costs of deportation are high but the reality is the long term costs to our country are far, far greater.
What a joke of an article! Come to the border towns and States and you will see depressed wages and lots of illegals getting paid under the table. They aren’t “in the shadows” either. Go to any Home Depot or Lowe’s and you’ll see them standing around waiting for someone to pick them up. I feel sorry for anybody trying to legally run a landscape or roofing business with the proper licenses, etc. This is what you compete with as Obama and the government look the other way.
They don’t have to live with the culture they bring with them either like gangs, uninsured driving and dumping trash everywhere.
Remember the act of legalizing all illegals was tried under Reagan and the congress promised to close the border, which did not happen and now we are facing the same problem. If they legalize all illegals now, they will still refuse to seal the border and then in a few years we will again be facing the same problem.
The way we are going legalizing illegals, we will not be the same America we once were. By allowing the illegals to become citizens that will be able to vote we will turn into the country they ran away from. When they come here legally they must learn our ways before they are allowed to become citizens, which will help them to see what kind of country we have and how it is ran.
Exactly what jobs won’t americans do? I’ve mowed lawns, worked in hotels, washed dishes. Construction used to be a good job until illegals caused the wages to crater.
The only jobs we appear to need immigrant support for are ag jobs, which accounts for approx. 3-4% of illegal immigrants. And there are things that could be done there. Instead of 10 hour days in the fields at min wage, split that up into two 5 hour shifts at double the pay. Then set up transportation systems to get people to these jobs. And tweak the fed/state benefit eligibility rules to “encourage” participation in these programs. Yes, food would cost more, but right now the true cost to produce food is hidden, because its subsidized by our support for illegal immigrants.
A deep pool of cheap labor perverts the free market and prevent it from functioning.
You don’t give criminals legal status! What your saying makes no sense! If the government and other companies are hiring illegals undercutting American workers, then the corruption needs stopped not given a free pass! I agree the government has had a hand in the corruption, but that makes them criminals too! Legalizing millions of illegal would put a strain on the economy it can not handle (economics for dumb people 101)! You say these jobs are jobs that Americans will not work, but in the same breath you say, this has been happening for years! How then would you know that Americans would not do these jobs? Americans will not do these jobs for the same money is really what you mean. You see the corrupt businesses that hire illegals are not paying them appropriate wages, because they can get away with it! The illegals do not fight it for fear of deportation. If an immigrant entered America legally, then and only then will the law be on their side! The point still remains that criminals do not get a free pass, they should get deported! The businesses that support these illegals should face prison, not a slap on the wrist!
Yes, let’s reward their illegal behavior and blame others for their being here. The cheapest solution id the shut down the border, and THEN discuss amnesty.
The first step must be to bring the border under control. Amnesty is a different issue which will not be considered until the illegal border crossing has been stopped, and interior immigration enforcement has been restarted. Trump 2016
anthony giambra. When reports are good Americans want to take credit for it. But when its bad, there is always someone else to blame for it. The truth of the matter, there isn’t one person posting here that would not be willing to go to the ends of the earth, illegally or not, if they knew there was greater opportunity available. The flow of migration has been like since the beginning of time. That is how supposedly Columbus ended up on the shores of the new world.
I understand the frustration of Americans with this issue. I am one of them. But its not the fault of those in the country illegally for accepting opportunities that has pretty much been handed to them on a silver platter.
People talk about a wall being breached or violated. It can’t be violated if you have a sign that read do not enter on one side, and welcome inside on the other. Its like having a walking sign flashing in the crosswalk with 8 seconds left on it before it turns red. People are going to walk across it.
How can it be the fault of those coming over, when corporations, small businesses, and even laypeople trying to get discounts on their lawn care, auto repair, home remodeling, construction, and babysitting. Counties, have accepted it, school districts fill classrooms above capacity, DMV’s and Insurance companies have tapped into this source of revenue. Its not just those coming into the country, fault oozes out of the pores of this country, and everyones hands are dirty. If there wasn’t work, or welfare, or them both, there would be no need for them to come. And, most Americans have used, or know someone that has used this labor pool.
You want to stop them. Stop the Americans that hire them.
The Illegals in this country 30+ million no way they pay close to what they take from this country. not even close GO DONALD
I think Donald’s extravagant life and large family will cost the nation more than the immigrants’ cost.
Dear Alice.
With all respect i will try to address your comment / question about the topic planted above.
As a former ” Illegal” Alien i can tell you part of the story that the news and politicians are not aware off or are just simply ignoring for whatever reason, story that i experimented fist hand.
The reason why i am taking the time to write you this lines is because a person well informed could have a better outlook of the picture, granting you the chance to opine without the strings of the media nor the political view but the common sense.
I lived in United State illegally for about 8 to 9 years, i worked as you said for low wage salary for a very long time, struggling to meet my ends needs like the majority of the legal population, but paying my taxes since year one, because i believe in fairness, the different is that as a illegal even when you pay taxes you don’t receive credit for it, witch means that you never will see a check coming your way, so all that money is becoming part of the system, totally different as someone who is legal that most likely will have a tax credit check.
As the use of United States resources like you mentioned before i don’t believe that is any way possible for someone is the entire country to use it without paying the fair share of taxes, because after all there is not acquire credential that allow any illegal people to not to pay the taxation fees for any service render nor utility served to them in any case, and the same rule applies for any goods at the store.
I totally understand your concern about people coming to this great country without the proper background checks, but also understand that people can’t walk trough life seeing things just black and white when there is and clear big gray area that include people just trying to survive a hostile environment in their country, people with good intentions, people who has been in a waiting list to get legal status in United States for 20+ years following the rules and regulation from a dysfunctional immigration apparatus and paying all the legal fees ( that are very expensive ) considering the minimum wages in their own country, that ended up granting their visas or green cards in some cases when the are about to cross the bridge of senility and some of them even postmortem.
No one is taking the job from others, specially since the social environment is plagued with a lot of racism and segregation in which North Americans are always the first choice to get hired, you can’t blame the illegal immigrants for the low wages that are been offered in the work market since they are the product of a recession from a collapsing house market in 2007 drove by the banks trying to sustain a bubble created by them that ended up bursting unstabilizing the stock exchange globally, (yes the same recession that put millions of people out of their houses) was not from illegal immigration but greedy bankers, a market for employer was a consequence of that, a market where employers putted their own rules, wages and regulations and people running out of options didn’t have other option than accept them to get any king of income .
Now about the $ 113 B in support of illegal people, that are numbers that evidently came out of a magic hat, since there are not tangible way to be measure, any politician who want to use it as a stepping stone to catapult their campaign will recite them as their own credo without a unsustainable proof other than a drawn numbers in the air, taking possibly a brute number from the total amount spent in services to the community in general and labeled as they please, wound be unrealistic to spend more than what you get without putting yourself in red numbers? well it looks like that is what this numbers are implying, even when there are cities that are gradually coming out of their deficit and a house market bouncing back.
Any illegal immigrant can’t even go to the hospital without paying for their service, if they don’t have a way to pay they are kicked out , there is not express card to get free health from the government just for being illegal and the majority of the hospital are private not governmental facilities.
I still have much to say about this topic but i believe that communication is a two way road, i respect your point of view and just wanted to share my personal experience with you to show you a different picture than the one that is been showed by the politicians, i could say that the picture that they show is pretty much photoshopped.
God Bless United States of America.
Alice, very well said. Enter the country legally and speak English, one country, one common language. Be a citizen of the country and be proud to be here. Personally Id rather have a Mexican as a neighbor/friend then worry about a terrorist…(not pointing fingers at people of Muslim religions).
This dubious statistics nevertheless shows the high costs of the state money loss. But illegal immigration,sponsored by big business for the low payment, is the evil for the American industry development: cheap labour force prevents the technology advancements.American workers suffers of the illegal competitors.The importaint feature of presence of illegals is the lowering level of trust and law-abiding among the population.Thus there are the minuses,and what are the pluses of illegal immigration? – the only great plus! Leftists posess the vote mashine for leftist power prolongation. And this illegal mashine must be stoped!
Every illegal person within our borders is a potential enemy. They are taking jobs away from Americans. They are not all paying taxes. They can thank the person we have sitting behind the desk in the oval office and all of the americans who voted for obama who is the worst president we have ever had.
They pay $11B in taxes.
The cost the US $113B per year to support.
In 2015 illegals sent $50B from the US to Mexico alone.
So, the amount the pay in taxes is nothing compared to how much they cost the US and how much they send outside the US.
I am so sick of hearing how the they pay in taxes. It pales in comparison to their cost. This doesn’t include use of infrastructure, social and natural resources, crime, over population, degrade in the quality of our lives, damage to our childrens educations etc…
Why don’t you write the entire truth instead of the part that glorifies criminal aliens?
You forgot to mention the part of the article you read about it costing upwards of $300-$600 billion a year to get illegals out of the country. Also, the $113 billion you found in a previous article comes from one very conservative group. Cross reference that with other findings from other groups and re-submit your findings. I’d be interested to hear more.
they only pay taxes so they can claim 6 dependents and get $ back from th EIC.
the cost of letting these burglars dwarfs what it would cost to send them back
Will you people please stop lying to the world! EVERYONE knows illegals are not paying FEDERAL INCOME TAXES WHICH PAY for roads,schools,welfare,foodstamps,medicaid,etc,etc,etc!!!Any idiot knows these are the reasons they crawl swim walk or fly here from all over the world!!!they might at the least pay sales taxes which in total falls waaay short of what it cost to feed house educate and care for illegal immigrants, a lot of us tax payers do read and we can add an subtract dollars.take away all the freebies they won’t come here,and they DEFINATELY are coming for the free stuff i.e. anchor babies.14th amendment was for desendents of SLAVES NOT babies of illegals!! because their not suppose to be here! Children All over the world carry the citizenship of the parent!! U.S.soldiers babies born in Germanyare U.S.citizens BECause the parents are UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA…as are kids born here from illegals are under jurisdiction of wherever the mama came from Mexico,China etc…people are sick and tired of this massive fraud being perpetrated on legal US citizens who for years pay into the system then sit bck and watch millions of illegals steal their money.. and this is why Donald Trump is leading the polls.
This is an age old argument that’s been around for some time. It’s ignorant, stupid, and grossly misleading, as it doesn’t address any side effects of the claim. But in step with most all liberal and democrat ploys to pretend they address the issue objectively.
The bulk of taxes they pay are in the form of sales tax. For which Americans were and would be paying anyway if their wages weren’t drug down by illegals because they would be spending and purchasing more than they are now. Secondly and more important in the “billions” category, is the multi-billions of earned wages by them that are sent back home. These are multi-billions that then go into the commerce and spending cycle in mexico or elsewhere and -not- back into Americas commerce and taxing cycle. These billions are huge for their home country and they don’t want to loose them.
Then you have the even poorer and more grotesque argument that they create jobs. Only a microscopic number of them create jobs. And when they do, those jobs are in the form of juans concrete or rosa’a chuck wagon on wheels, or flocko’s carpet installations. Wherein they hire what else, other illegals that they don’t have to pay taxes on or offer benefits to. But liberals and democrats would have you to believe they are starting businesses like Wendy’s, Sears, Boeing, or General Electric. And in either case the bottom line is that if and when they create a job(s), it still comes at the cost of putting an American out of work or taking a portion of work away from an American in order for them to accomplish it. When is the last time you heard, read, saw, where Chewie’s Tire Outlet employing 400 workers in its 35 franchised outlets across the country was started and ran by an illegal, -never-. It just doesn’t work that way. And even if it did and you gave Chewie a green card, the guaranteed side effect again would be that of those 400 jobs would equate in reality of a minimum 375 Americans somewhere lost their job because of.
Another completely and deliberately overlooked result of the presence of illegal aliens in the country that is never discussed or considered in the proposed finding of the likes of the Pewiee Institute and their kind is the accumulated costs and losses to Americans from an individual perspective. Meaning, be it all well known of the cost to our taxes illegals consume, there’s an additional individual cost or loss to the American working population. It’s one thing that Joe the mattress salesman or Annie the real estate agent, a portion of their paid taxes go towards illegals. But if you happen to be ( and there are countless millions of Americans who make up these fields ) Dave the framer or Mike roofer or trucker, or whatever, not only that portion of their taxes going towards illegals but via their presence are and have cost these people a legitimate monthly loss of income anywhere from 200.00 a month to often times 1000.00 a month or more in opportunities to work. So for the sake of argument let us say an average of 400.00 a month. That’s 5000.00 a year of lost income or opportunity. Now apply that to their last 30 years of working income, that’s 150,000.00 gross before taxes almost every one of these Americans have experienced. And this is -on top of- their portion of taxes going towards illegals. And there are countless -millions- of American blue-collar that fall into this category.
So the notion that illegals contribute more than they take is so horrendously skewed and inaccurate, if offends the IQ of even the canine population of America. Bottom line FACT is that is not one, as in NOT ONE, argument that can be made for illegals benefitting this country in any way, shape, or form.
No real American supports illegals. Now you can call yourself a communist, socialist, or global capitalist, but you can NOT call yourself a real American. A real American believes the USA is a INDEPENDENT country with laws and regulations on immigration. A independent country has it’s own laws concerning its citizens. Thus Europe has no independent countries ( GB is semi independent ).
Communist, socialist, and globalist capitalist state illegals are a benefit to the economy: how is that possible? How can a person that sneaked into the US, or over stayed a visa, stole a SS number or used a fake SS number to illegally attained a job a benefit to the US? How can anyone that has no respect for the US constitution be they Obama, or a person from Central America, or Asia, be a benefit to the US?
The health care in the US is broke mainly due to Illegals, the educational system in the US in broke mainly due to Illegals, every job a illegal has, is a job taken away from a person that has the legal right to work in the US. Communist, socialist, and global capitalist state that illegals are only doing jobs Americans will not do: what a bunch of garbage and lies; I never made more then 2 dollars above minimum wage when I was working and my foreign born US citizen wife makes less then 10 dollars a hour cleaning at a county hospital.
Communist, socialist, and global capitalist state we need “Welfare for people that can not find jobs, or making two little at their jobs” and then say Illegals are needed because no one will do the work they do. You talk about stupidity, you pay people because they do not want to work, and then say you need illegals to do the work.
Our prisons are over run by Illegals, we have cities like SF and states like California that promote, encourage, and protect illegals.
Let’s recap:
1) No real American supports illegals, only communist, socialist, and global capitalist support illegals.
2) Every job a illegal has leads to unemployment for people that have the legal right to work in the USA.
3) The health care industry and educational system in the USA is Broke because of Illegals
4) Our justice system is Broke due to illegals
Billions if not trillions of dollars have been spent on illegals in the USA in the past 40 years, it is about time Real Americans push back and say The USA is a independent country, it is NOT a part of the Unified State of North and South Americana.
Fixing the Illegal problem is very simple, just stop given out stuff, like driver licenses, education, and health care; and shut down sanctuary cities like SF and sanctuary States like California.
“A 2010 report from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative group that supports tighter immigration restrictions, estimates that illegal immigrants cost U.S. taxpayers $113 billion annually…”
“The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy – which bills itself as a non-profit, non-partisan research organization that works on tax policy issues — estimates undocumented immigrants pay about $11.64 billion a year in state and local taxes….”
So illegal immigrants cost americans just about $100 billion a year.
Add in the impacts they have by denying economic opportunity to millions of poor americans looking for entry level work, and the impact millions of people who will work for either less than the min wage or work unpaid hours, which keeps wages low.
This doesn’t include the impact on our already struggling schools, which are forced to try to educate kids that are way behind, many of which don’t speak English, with no additional resources to do so. So education sufferes, again, especially in the poor and minority areas where illegals tend to live. Education, the most important thing in breaking the cycle of poverty, and democrats just don’t seem to car about how schools are affected by the millions of additional kids they have to teach.
This is why every other country in the world enforces their immigration laws and deports illegal immigrants. It has nothing to do with racism, as our democrat friends just love to scream, it is all about economics.
llegal Immigration Costs California Taxpayers More Than $25 Billion a Year, Finds FAIR
Washington, D.C., June 19, 2014: A new study released by the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) finds that providing education, health care, law enforcement, and social and government services to illegal aliens and their dependents costs Californians $25.3 billion per year according to FAIR’s report The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on California Taxpayers. The state’s 3 million illegal aliens and their 1.1 million U.S.–born children cost the average California household — headed by a U.S. citizen — $2,370 annually.
Among the report’s key findings:
• Funding the K-12 education for children who are themselves illegal aliens and for the citizen children of illegal aliens accounted for the largest share of the cost to taxpayers at $14.4 billion. These services included standard public school educations and supplemental English language instruction. Despite federal funding, the average per pupil expenditure is $10,450 each year.
• Justice and law enforcement costs — policing, court and incarceration — associated with illegal aliens soared to more than $4.4 billion.
• Medical services cost taxpayers approximately $4 billion, including $388 million associated with 68,000 births to illegal alien mothers.
• Public assistance — low-cost meal programs, free immunizations, etc. — are available to residents regardless of legal status. The $792 million price tag for these services is borne by California taxpayers.
• The report finds that taxes collected from illegal aliens amounts to about $3.5 billion annually.
• “Twenty-five billion dollars a year in costs associated with illegal immigration represents a fiscal crisis that affects California’s ability to meet its basic obligations to citizens and legal residents,” said Dan Stein, president of FAIR. “While clearly the Federal government bears responsibility for its failure, or refusal, to enforce our immigration laws, in California’s case many of the burdens of illegal immigration are self-induced.
• “Despite overwhelming evidence that illegal immigration represents an unsustainable fiscal burden to the state, the California Legislature and local governments across the state continue to provide new benefits, new services, and new privileges to illegal aliens, even as the state neglects the needs and concerns of other Californians. The costs will continue to grow so long as the state continues to reward illegal immigration and impedes immigration enforcement. California taxpayers will continue to be the losers in this unhappy scenario,” concluded Stein
First off they are NOT “undocumented” immigrants. They are ILLEGAL immigrants.. Had they FOLLOWED our rules from square one we wouldn’t be having this conversation now.
Secondly, did you know that California alone spends “llegal Immigration Costs California Taxpayers More Than $25 Billion a Year” ???
Ever been to Central Los Angeles, Huntington Park, old town Gardena ??? They look like TJ !!!! People are pushing food carts all over the place !!! It looks like TJ !!!! How can we allow this ??? Are they really the “best and brightest” as Obama has said ?? NO !!!
Let’s ask Kate Steinle and Jamiel Shaw Jr if they are the “best and brightest” ????
The illegal invaders may pay taxes on goods but not on earnings, that they reap the benefit from ie: welfare, medical, food stamps. and they should be rounded up and thrown out of this country, period.
TYPICAL DEMOCRATIC CRAP, ACCORDING THE THE DEMOCRATS I AM A RACIST BECAUSE I DO NOT SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WE HAVE LAWS AGAINST ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO IGNORE THAT LAW AND GIVE THE ILLEGALS MEDICAL, EDUCATIONAL AND LIVING BENEFITS. HERE IN CALIFORNIA THEY WANT TO RAISE TAXES FOR ROADS AND WATER STORAGE FACILITIES SINCE WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY. HOWEVER WE HAVE MONEY TO GIVE ILLEGALS. OUR GOVERNMENT LEADERS NEED TO START REPRESENTING THE LEGAL CITIZENS FIRST AND FOREMOST.
Illiterate social parasites invading the USA for many years…….they will never improve the USA.
Most illegals do NOT pay taxes, they get paid “under the table”, they file income tax returns and earned income credit and get thousands of dollars in tax refunds. DEPORTATION IS THE ONLY ANSWER> VOTE DONALD TRUMP
It does not matter if they are paying taxes or not, they are here illegally and should not be working to start with
They pay no Federal Income tax, no Social Security and no Medicare…they take far more than they give. They cannot be vetted, there is no way to know what disease or sickness they are arriving with.
When you come into the Country legally at least there is a method to make sure you are not a criminal or have any sickness, it’s not perfect but at least it’s something.
I can’t believe any American would say yes to illegal immigration.
About $122 billion of remittances are sent from the US to Mexico each year alone by illegal aliens. They don’t just earn that money picking fruit, cleaning buildings, and cutting grass, jobs Americans don’t particularly care to do. They are also in the meatpacking, construction, and other industries that should pay well. They drive wages down for Americans doing comparable jobs and deny American workers opportunities to get them. Curbing this alone and restricting work no Americans want to legal guest workers where the employers have to pay for their social benefits such as medical costs, education for their children, and other costs taxpayers now must pay for will easily pay for Donald Trump’s wall. We should also see an end to NAFTA, WTO, and all of the other treaties unfavorable to the overwhelming majority of American workers but highly favorable to global corporations come to a screeching halt. A 35% import tax would give great incentive to bring manufacturing back to the US where these companies will have to pay legal and fair wages and comply with OSHA, EPA, and other laws. Small wonder they are scared to death of Trump. Suddenly profits would be shared with tens of millions of American workers instead of being kept by the top 1%. Prices of manufactured goods might go up but Americans will have jobs so they can pay for them. Let’s also keep all those dangerously tainted and mislabeled food and counterfeit drugs and other merchandise out of the US. Let’s impose very harsh penalties for bringing them in illegally such as seizing ships, planes, and long prison terms. While we’re at it, let’s use our military planes to wipe out fields all over the world that produce raw materials that are used to manufacture dangerous drugs like Cocaine, Heroin, etc. That’s a favor most of the world would appreciate.
can we mention the billions in fraudulent tax returns with social security numbers stolen from US citizens???
It’s not enough tax money to allow this country to turn into a nation where political lackeys pass legislation that legalizes illegal immigration putting foreign nationals who are here illegally above the law.
I don’t know about everybody else, but I have to follow the law or suffer the consequences. Illegal aliens should not get a pass!
If we don’t have enough Americans to work, then allow for LEGAL immigrants who have been vetted and have the specific skills we need. It would make sense to have a modern bracero program as well
We already have laws governing illegal immigration. Follow them and stop the practices that make living in the U.S. illegally so rewarding. Eventually that will turn the tide. There is no quick fix that will last!
I do not blame people coming to America for work, especially when the political parties have dismissed it for over a generation allowing it to continue at corporates behest.
We have to get passed the beneficial projections of this matter, because they never consider the reality that not everyone that immigrate to this country have an interest to become citizens, create jobs, or be productive immigrants. The impact on education is not only making it harder for Americans to get the quality education they need to compete globally, which I believe will eventually contribute drastically more to social welfare.
If America was to boost the resources needed today to create the educational environment Americans, legal and illegal immigrants need. The cost would skyrocket to unprecedented proportion. As it, it is creating a structure that once had teachers contending with the progress of 18-20 students per teacher. These numbers were extreme a generation ago, today the balance is somewhere between 28-36 students per class per teacher. If it was considered extreme a generation ago 20 to 1, it is despicable to think 36 to 1 is okay.
Without a good education, reports already suggest is setting citizens up for poverty, and its residues, poor health, crime, addiction, etc. all costing money to control, and eradication is almost impossible.
So while the short term benefits to employers, may be good. And, Im talking from corporations, military, small business, and personal interest. like gardening, home repairs etc. Everyone that use this labor force in guilty of contributing to Americas struggles. Short, mid, and long term.
Illegal Is Illegal
Migrating to America legally is, and should be, a thorough procedure
meant to protect the interests of American citizens. It involves more than
simply jumping a fence and heading north in pursuit of free health care,
education, food stamps, and other handouts paid for by U.S. taxpayers.
Legal immigration means enduring rigorous hurdles like background checks to
detect a criminal background or possible ties to terrorists; medical
examinations to detect diseases still prevalent in third-world nations, but
long since eradicated here; proof of financial solvency so as to prevent
newcomers from becoming a burden on U.S. taxpayers, and testing for
knowledge of American history and English skills.
Those who have jumped a fence into America in order to avoid our
immigration checks are not immigrants. Rather, they are invading criminals,
with no claim whatsoever to the welcome mat extended to legal immigrants.
Such people do not deserve recognition or sanction by the United States,
and should be rounded up and deported as soon as possible, without
exception.
In truth, illegal aliens have invaded our nation, leaving America
vulnerable to undetected crime, terrorism, disease, and financial
devastation at the hands of people with no legal or moral justification for
being here.
When you can get arrested for fishing and hunting without a license and not for
being in this country illegally then you are living in a country run by idiots.
Subject:Illegal Immigration And Deportation:
It is very important for anyone residing illegally in the United States and it’s outlying territories to start now to notify a relative in your home country and start packing your bags and making necessary adjustments to relocate outside the United States. Failure to act now and waiting until after the presidential election will result in your forced deportation. Should you elect to be deported your chances of re-entering legally and even seeking citizenship will be jeopardized and or prevented permanently.
If all the illegals announced today that they would be voting Republican Obama and the Democrats would start building the fence tomorrow.
These thieving foreign criminals leech off almost $500 BILLION A YEAR in direct illegal immigrant services and another $500 billion indirectly as handouts for anchor babies based on them being an American (excuse me while I vomit) are NOT counted in estimates for illegal immigrant costs as they are technically costs generated by an American. Illegal immigrants leech off almost 100 TIMES what they are always “expected” to contribute in taxes.
Illegal aliens cost American taxpayers 30% MORE to educate these foreign criminals and their anchor babies than we spend on our own kids, occupying 25% of our most secure prisons with only the most violent of the illegal immigrant criminals because we don’t have space to house more, by having taxpayers in our border states pay for >2/3 of all taxpayer funded births for illegal immigrants, they take endless idiotic taxpayer funded programs to sue Americans to get more handouts. Some 85% of all illegal immigrant families live 100% off of American taxpayers by immediately meeting their goal of popping out an anchor baby. Those who can’t meet this funding avenue have made identity theft the most popular crimes in all of the top 10 states for housing illegal immigrants. Amazing how that works out isn’t it?
We have millions of foreign criminals getting 100% taxpayer funded healthcare that American citizens can’t afford to buy for themselves!
The rule of law cannot continue to be so flagrantly ignored. Just look to the middle east to see what our country will turn into if it continues. The drug cartels and coyotes are doing a whopping business with illegals and drugs pouring over the border. It must be stopped now. Trump-2016.
There needs to be a 20 year freeze in any more Immigration. The U.S is too saturated by too many People. No more Immigration from any Spanish speaking countries,period. NON- Spanish speakers are now being discriminated against by Hispanic Latino Mexican Chicanos while looking for work and being treated like 2nd class citizens while the Hispanic Latino Mexican Chicano hire and prefer to work with their own type of people.
be carefull if you tell the truth and make illegals look bad the MODERATOR will delete your comment like he did mine.he must be a hispanic
Illegals paying billions in taxes is all fiction, If they don’t have a social security number they don’t file, if they file under a false social security number there is no way to say how much they pay. They are here illegally, come in legally like my parents did and went through the process and paid all the fees required then welcome. Come here illegally and expect to be welcome and bypass the legal immigration requirements, I’m sorry, please go back to your home country. When you came into the USA illegally, you knew the chances you were taking, including having children here and then the possibility of having to take them back to your country. It was your choice……..
The more I learn about the various departments in the government and the failed policies of our past presidents I find myself frustrated and angry. I am glad that President Trump was elected, despite how made some people are I believe more people have began to open there eyes to what has been going on for years. It is clear that we must control our borders from illegal entry into our country, that means a wall and tight controls of that wall. It means that no one is allowed to enter without proper vetting and medical screening. Providing free medical care, food, education and housing to anyone that enters illegally when we have thousands of US citizens homeless and without jobs is ridiculous. There should be at least a 5 year waiting period after permitted entry before they could apply for assistance. I realize there maybe exceptions from those granted temporary entry for compassion reasons. But for the sake of all American Citizens we must get a handle of all people that have entered the US illegally and make sure they have been at minimum vetted and medically screened. If they have criminal records or medical risks that they be deported immediately. All others that remain that establish they are capable to be self sufficient, I believe they should be given the opportunity to petition for residence. The IRS needs to do their job to insure that only individuals with a valid SSN are allowed to work in the US, I would refer all questionable individual to ICE to screen. No one in the US should be allowed to work with out a valid SSN or a Temp SSN for those on a temp work visas. Make them good for no longer than 3 years so that they have to be renewed or they are automatically cancelled. All cancelled numbers should be referred to ICE to verity they have left the country. They problem may be complex but if as a people would stop trying to figure out ways to circumvent the process I know we will be able to protect the American People and at the same time make it possible for those that truly yearn to be free. However, immigrants must also be aware that with freedom offered comes a price, all must assimulate to this countries laws and norms. Everyone has freedom of religion and the right to pursue happiness in their own way. But all must follow this countries laws and constitution when they decide to make this country their home. United States will never be an extension of the home they left behind, for those who cannot accept that they should return were they can be happy. I do not believe we should allow unattended children to be allowed to entry into the US, unless they are adopted by an US citizen. For that to happen they need to be vetted and there home country needs to be contacted to verify their true status. We must fix this immigration problem now before anymore US citizens are killed or hurt. People build fences around their homes and put locks on their doors for a reason, violation of one’s space without permission should not be tolerated. This country has been violated for far to long and it must end NOW.